A Sheep gone Astray
I’m an atheist. So why can’t I shake God?
Isaiah 53:6 “All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him (Jesus) the iniquity of us all.
Jon Watkins – Online Ministries February 23, 2016
Editing, corrections and additions by Cynthia Pawl
A story that came out recently, in the news, may shed some light on a topic that has become very popular of late. Neuroscience News was invited to participate in a virtual round table discussion organized by National Geographic. The article is entitled “The God Brain: Round-table Discussion on God and Spirituality for Brain Games” Here is a quote from the article:
“Is belief in God innate in our brains, as if it were installed by some divine programmer? Or is spirituality a more complex evolving adaptation that has both helped and harmed us as a species?’
Yes, we are programmed to be drawn the Divine. The trouble is that man has believed the lie that there are many divine things (gods) and there are many paths to the divine (God). No, there are not many gods. There is only the one true God. He is the Trinity, God the Father, God the Son – Jesus, and God the Holy Spirit.In the article by Miss Elizabeth King linked above, she makes a statement and asks the question that has troubled many who don’t believe in God. “I’m an atheist. So why can’t I shake God?” I would like to answer her question. She states that she was once a full-fledged believer. The reason that she is “unable to shake GOD” is because she took her eyes off of the one who saved her and embraced lies and false doctrine! Lies and false doctrine can never satisfy a sin sick soul. Obviously, her inner spirit, senses that something is missing.
John 6:44 “No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.”
Who draws men and women to the Father? The Comforter, the Holy Spirit.
John 16:7-9 “Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter (the Holy Spirit) will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.8 And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment: 9 Of sin, because they believe not on me;
The Holy Spirit is always at work convicting of all of us about the sin in our lives.
Proverbs 22:6 “Train up a child in the way he (or she) should go: and when he (or she) is old, he (or she) will not depart from it.”
How we are raised as children, what we are exposed to in our youth, greatly affects what we believe and how we act later in life. Miss King according to her testimony was taught about God and “loved him with all her heart”
She states: “I spoke in tongues when I was a kid. I went to church twice a week with my mom, stepdad and five siblings. I prayed before every meal, every night before bed and at various times throughout the day. I believed in the Bible, and I feared hell. Until my mid-teens, I was a “born again” Christian who loved God with all her heart…….”
I have no idea what kind of a Pentecostal church she attended, but there is MUCH false doctrine that has crept into the various Pentecostal beliefs. Assemblies of God, Four Square, Church of God, etc. I am not saying speaking in tongues is false. I believe in and speak in tongues. I am speaking mainly of the seeker sensitive mentality, secular psychology, yoga, and other worldly junk that is being offered as “worship”. False doctrine has crept into ALL other denominations as well. 2nd Timothy 3:1-5 “This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; 5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.” Paul is not speaking about lost unsaved people. He is speaking about the people IN the Church, the body of Christ!
Just because one speaks in tongues, attends church regularly, and does all the things Christians do, does NOT mean you will not be led astray. It is not about religion. Not about what you do or even what you believe. It is about RELATIONSHIP. Do you know Him? More importantly, DOES HE KNOW YOU. You can pray till you’re blue in the face, read your Bible 24 hrs a day, and If your FAITH is not 100% on Jesus Christ and what he did for YOU on the Cross, you will stumble and fall! If the Holy Spirit is not leading you and your discernment is lacking, Satan will creep into your mind chipping away at you 24/7 until you start to believe his lies. How do I know? It happened to me TWICE until I learned what the problem IS and how to FIX that problem! That is what I believe happened to Miss King as well as tens of thousands of others.
2nd Timothy 3:6-7 “For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women (and Men) laden with sins, led away with divers lusts, 7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.”
There is the problem….. Sin and that ole Sin Nature that is in ALL of us just waiting to be revived! The majority of churches WILL NOT deal with the SIN of a BORN AGAIN BELIEVER! Yes, SIN in a saved person! 1st John 1:6-10 “If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth:7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.”
What is the “knowledge of the truth” Paul is talking about? Jesus Christ and him Crucified! That is THE ANSWER to ALL of your problems!
She then brings out a list of questions on the hearts and minds of so many young people. They are searching for answers. But, these are questions that the church can’t or won’t answer. The majority of the church leadership, or the layman for that matter, can’t answer because THEY don’t know!
“……When I was about 16, I started asking questions during services that my youth pastors couldn’t or didn’t want to answer: Why is it a sin to be gay? Why is it okay to spank children? Where does the Bible say we can’t have premarital sex?”
The majority of churches have youth leadership that are what I call glorified baby sitters. They are placed in leadership positions without biblical knowledge or a calling of God to be a youth minister. I would almost bet that Miss King was in a church where they had parties, events, watched videos and played secular music, basically bringing the world into the church. I would also bet that the adult entertainment was the same way! At the end of this article is partial sermon by the late David Wilkerson, very clearly laid out exactly what was happening in the Church. He hit the nail right on the head. Here are the answers to your three questions Miss King.
Why is it a sin to be gay?
There is much info on homosexuality that one can view here on the website. I would point all readers to this specific article here. It is a 2 part writing that will explain why Homosexuality is Sin.
Why is it okay to spank children?
Although I do not recommend any form of Psychology, it is witchcraft in my opinion, It seems that is all you can find on the web are the Psychologists point of view. They rely on the opinions of men who were/are mainly gnostics, who totally disregard scripture. Here is an example: Spanking can be an appropriate form of Child Discipline. This is from a supposed Minister of the Gospel, but he does not quote one scripture! The book of Proverbs has many scriptures on Child Discipline. It would behoove you the reader to find out what God says. See a few examples here. If you will instill the Word of God in your child and live as an example before them like the Bible teaches, there would be no need to “spank” or use disciplinary actions. There is a saying that you can “reach them with the Bible in church or in a jail”!
Where does the Bible say we can’t have premarital sex?
Premarital sex is identified as fornication in the Bible. If you perform an internet search you will find websites that will tell you there are no scriptures that forbid premarital sex. Don’t listen to such fools as they have no idea what they are talking about. They want to wallow in, and justify their Iniquity! Again, here are a few scriptures that tells us it is a sin. See them here
So what went wrong, why did Miss King become an Atheist?
Number one the Church failed! The leaders did not have the answers to the questions and the truth was probably NOT being preached. It may have been a prosperity or social gospel which will lead a person to spiritual destruction. Those doctrines are Spiritual Adultery and are an abomination akin to direct Idol worship.
She states that around 16 years old is when she started to ask questions and go astray. Those early teen years are filled with many alluring activities and the pull of the world, the Sin Nature is very strong. Galatians 5:16-18 “This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. 17 For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would.” There we have it, the crux of the problem. The flesh was and is stronger then the Spirit because she and so many others are NOT being taught how to overcome the world the flesh and the devil.
Miss King, and others who have fallen away, have the feeling that “God lingers with me” and “somehow God has found a way to stick around in my mind”. It is God! It is the Holy Spirit, the third person in the Trinity that is convicting and is gently trying to bring her back into the fold.
Matthew 18:12-14 “How think ye? if a man have an hundred sheep, and one of them be gone astray, doth he not leave the ninety and nine, and goeth into the mountains, and seeketh that which is gone astray? 13 And if so be that he find it, verily I say unto you, he rejoiceth more of that sheep, than of the ninety and nine which went not astray. 14 Even so it is not the will of your Father which is in heaven, that one of these little ones should perish.”
Jesus has given the Holy Spirit instruction to bring all of his stray sheep back to Him. as verse 14 states “Even so it is not the will of your Father which is in heaven, that one of these little ones should perish.”
Jesus says in John Chapter 10:1-16 ” Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber. (this is not one of the sheep and the Holy Spirit will NOT look for these)2 But he that entereth in by the door is the shepherd of the sheep. 3 To him the porter openeth; and the sheep hear his voice: and he calleth his own sheep by name, and leadeth them out. 4 And when he putteth forth his own sheep, he goeth before them, and the sheep follow him: for they know his voice. 5 And a stranger will they not follow, but will flee from him: for they know not the voice of strangers”. This is one way you can be sure you are a child of God. That “voice” is the Holy Spirit speaking to you and that is why you can’t “shake” God!
When a Sheep, a saved person, goes astray, the Shepard calls out to that sheep. That sheep knows the voice of the Shepard and will come when he calls. Unless that Sheep is stubborn and I will deal with that in a bit. Again, that calling is the voice of the Holy Spirit that resides in every Born Again believer. That is what Miss. King is hearing, that still small voice. Its a good thing too, because if she was not hearing it, that would indicate that the Lord has turned her over to a reprobate mind. Romans 1:28 “And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;” To be given over to a reprobate mind is not a good thing friend. That means you will be incapable of comprehending the things of God and thus reject Jesus and Salvation. Not a good prospect reader! There are a whole lot of reprobates wandering around today! Dear reader, it would do you good to study to whole of Romans chapter 1.
Most of the world can’t connect with the meaning of a Shepard and the Sheep. A lost and dying world can NOT discern spiritual things! Even the Disciples did not understand the parable that Jesus was using so he explained it further in Verses 6-16:
6 This parable spake Jesus unto them: but they understood not what things they were which he spake unto them. 7 Then said Jesus unto them again, Verily, verily, I say unto you, I am the door of the sheep. 8 All that ever came before me are thieves and robbers: but the sheep did not hear them. 9 I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture. 10 The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly. 11 I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep. 12 But he that is an hireling, and not the shepherd, whose own the sheep are not, seeth the wolf coming, and leaveth the sheep, and fleeth: and the wolf catcheth them, and scattereth the sheep. 13 The hireling fleeth, because he is an hireling, and careth not for the sheep. 14 I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep, and am known of mine. 15 As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep. 16 And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.
How does a Sheep, a child of God get led astray?
False doctrine promoted by in Seminaries, in the pulpits, and on supposed Christian TV! Paul battled them constantly in his ministry. It is no different today with all of the idiocy and another gospel, another Jesus being presented by disciples of Satan. The Holy Spirit is not in the majority of Churches and there are Dead Preachers, preaching Dead Sermons, to Dead Congregations! The majority who leave the church do so because GOD is NOT there and has left the building! Here is a good example of what is being taught: Jesus vs. the Bible
As mentioned previously, If that sheep is stubborn the Shepard will sometimes take drastic measures (for its own good) chastising or punishing the Lamb that has run off and will not obey. A shepherd would go out and search for a lost lamb that had wandered off again. When he found the lost lamb, he would BREAK OR DISLOCATE ITS LEG, and then carry it back to the flock on his shoulders. This is called “hobbling.” We have all seen that image like the one to the right. He wasn’t carrying it because it was fun. He was carrying the lamb because he had intentionally crippled it, making it totally dependent on him.
Why? First, to keep it from wandering off again. Second, in order to train it to stay with the flock. While the leg was mending, the lamb would NOT wander off and learned to stay with the fold. This was done not just to protect the straying lamb, but also to protect the rest of the flock. Sheep are very gregarious. If one is heady and heads off on some tangent, the rest of the flock might go after it instead of staying with the shepherd. Sounds like humanity does it not? Follow the rest of the herd like the swine off a cliff!
We are exactly like that stubborn sheep. The LORD has to sometimes cripple us to get our attention and keep us from wandering off and getting in trouble, or eaten by the “roaring lion”! 1st Peter 5:8 “Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:” Make no mistake about it reader, the lion, who is Satan, is circling the Sheep fold and he is trying to single you out. If you wander off into the world, you will be devoured!
If I could talk to Miss King, I would remind her of what David wrote in Psalms 138:8 “If I ascend up into heaven, thou art there: if I make my bed in hell, behold, thou art there.”
When a person chooses to reject God and is cast into a burning Hell, the memories of God and what could have been are still there. They do not go away and you will be in mental as well as physical torment forever, when your eyes are opened and you realize what you rejected. David is talking about the mental knowledge of rejecting God hence Jesus, NOT the God would be there comforting him. There is no comfort in hell. Read the story of the Rich Man and Lazarus here in Luke 16:19-31.
Just as Miss King can’t shake the thoughts of God while mortally alive, she will still have those memories of a loving God (that she once knew by her testimony) in hell, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth! Luke 13:24-28 “Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able. 25 When once the master of the house is risen up, and hath shut to the door, and ye begin to stand without, and to knock at the door, saying, Lord, Lord, open unto us; and he shall answer and say unto you, I know you not whence ye are: 26 Then shall ye begin to say, We have eaten and drunk in thy presence, and thou hast taught in our streets. 27 But he shall say, I tell you, I know you not whence ye are; depart from me, all ye workers of iniquity. 28 There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you yourselves thrust out.”
I will leave you with one final quote of Scripture: Romans 12:1-2 “I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service. 2 And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.”
Partial Sermon By David Wilkerson. What he said all those years ago is running rampant in the Apostate Church today!
This may be continued in Part 2 if the Lord so inspires